Best Conversation EVER

[18:07] icepick2137: Something I have been developing in my mind, thought maybe I would present it to you and when you have the time might read it
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[18:07] icepick2137: I have some things on my mind and I feel you and your sister would be the only ones to understand what I'm saying so i'm not going to bother posting it on xanga, I will just tell you directly. Heres my pinch of philosophical thoughts I have been piecing together. Ok Jesus was nailed to a cross to forgive us for our sins so now we look at the cross as a turning point in history when we became forgiven for the ages to come and we wear the cross around our necks and look at it as a symbol of love and good. Heres where I am tied, the cross was used to torture criminals and kill them, it was sign of punishment and hatred. Also people say God gave us his ONLY son to save us, but people have been saying for all time they are the sons and daughters of god...
[18:07] icepick2137: oops
[18:07] icepick2137: igonre the first part, sent it to a friend of mine as well
[18:08] icepick2137: forgot to not copy that part
[18:08] thegrio: Good.
[18:09] thegrio: That's a hell of an observation.
[18:09] thegrio: I like it.
[18:09] icepick2137: its been bothering me for a while now
[18:10] thegrio: You're beginning to understand the hypocrisy of religion.
[18:10] icepick2137: one of the reasons I claim to religion, none are correct
[18:10] icepick2137: no religion*
[18:11] thegrio: I will say this: it's all in faith, bro. It's all in faith. I've found some semblance of faith as of late, and it has been encouraging, but everyone's path is different.
[18:12] thegrio: I'm encouraged that you're thinking about that, because that means you have the faculties about you to ponder and really analyze it. I salute you.
[18:12] icepick2137: Your too kind
[18:12] thegrio: Well, it's a new side I haven't seen. I'm excited to be able to know about that part of you.
[18:13] thegrio: I'm not trying to insult, I'm trying to encourage.
[18:13] icepick2137: I am aware
[18:13] icepick2137: I am smiling
[18:13] icepick2137: ;)
[18:13] thegrio: Forget religion for a moment.
[18:14] thegrio: Do you believe in a greater presence than yourself that may have influence on this world?
[18:14] thegrio: And don't use the word "God"
[18:14] icepick2137: I believe something is in control, there is too much order and balance in the world for it to have just resulted from an explosion
[18:15] thegrio: Amen, brother.
[18:15] thegrio: So, is it a malevolent or benign being that is in control?
[18:16] icepick2137: benign?
[18:16] icepick2137: run that by me again
[18:16] thegrio: good or evil
[18:16] icepick2137: ah see
[18:16] icepick2137: thats where im tied
[18:18] icepick2137: if "God" is supposed to be a great loving being, then why does he allow the "Devil" to cause suffering and tyranny upon the people?
[18:18] icepick2137: or otherwise known as the children
[18:19] thegrio: See, that's where I have issue.
[18:19] thegrio: I don't believe there is a devil.
[18:19] thegrio: I think WE are inherently evil.
[18:19] icepick2137: I dont think i would just sit by and let my kids get beat up and spit on by some asshole, if you understand me.
[18:20] thegrio: Ok, how you put that made me crack up.
[18:20] thegrio: That's AWESOME.
[18:21] icepick2137: To every effect there is a cause and to ever action theres an opposite reaction
[18:21] thegrio: Although, if you believe in balance, then the evil is necessary to counter the good; how would we ever know good if we never knew evil?
[18:22] icepick2137: Point well taken
[18:22] icepick2137: you cant live without dieing
[18:22] thegrio: which, to me, is stupid.
[18:22] thegrio: Why CAN'T I live forever?
[18:22] icepick2137: Guinia Pigs
[18:23] icepick2137: Were all one big expiriment
[18:23] thegrio: entropy
[18:23] thegrio: well, in a sense.
[18:24] icepick2137: Hitchhikers guide to the galaxy
[18:24] thegrio: Have you read it, or just watched the movie?
[18:24] icepick2137: Do you think what was conveyed in that movie is applicable
[18:25] icepick2137: ?
[18:25] thegrio: That's was a book from the 70's before it was a movie
[18:25] icepick2137: I know
[18:25] thegrio: and the movie, no, but the book, yes, conveyed that well.
[18:26] thegrio: Douglas Adams has that kind of sarcastic mindset, though, so it's conveyed in the writing.
[18:27] icepick2137: Im not suggesting mice run the world
[18:27] icepick2137: but
[18:27] icepick2137: How the were expirimenting on us, maybe not mice, but would you believe we are a sort of expiriment as I said before
[18:27] icepick2137: they*
[18:28] icepick2137: there are several ideas i have seen that are improbable but could make sense
[18:29] icepick2137: how earth is a virtual reality tv show for a more advance race, or an expiriment, etc
[18:29] icepick2137: Everything is a well oiled machine
[18:29] icepick2137: everything runs off of something else
[18:30] icepick2137: you could look at a human and a man made robot and they are one in the same
[18:31] icepick2137: well i have babbled long enough
[18:31] icepick2137: I need to leave now, I work at 6:45
[18:31] thegrio: No, I'm listening. It warms me to think that you're pondering this stuff.
[18:31] thegrio: Call me some time if you have thoughts or ideas.
[18:32] icepick2137: Will do
[18:32] thegrio: Have fun at work.
[18:32] icepick2137: I love you bro, im glad we could share thoughts
[18:32] thegrio: Where are you working, anyway?
[18:32] icepick2137: i feel like we bonded
[18:32] icepick2137: caraway auctions
[18:32] icepick2137: I present what is being sold to the buyers
[18:32] thegrio: doing what?
[18:32] icepick2137: 10 bucks an hour
[18:32] thegrio: ahhh, so you're a Barker Beauty
[18:32] thegrio: =P
[18:33] icepick2137: Im more attractive and fashionable than them though
[18:33] icepick2137: ;)
[18:33] icepick2137: lol well I gotta leave
[18:33] thegrio: night bro
[18:34] icepick2137: I bid thee adieu